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Name (Org)Name (Org)2Name (Org)3
(unknown person) 33674012673Keguang He(CMCC)SONG Xiaojia (China Mobile)
Abdul Majid Hussain  (Telstra)Kevin McDonnell (Huawei)Sundong (Futurewei)
Anatoly Andrianov (Nokia)Klaus Martiny (DTAG)Takayuki Nakamura (NTT-Group)
Baoguo (ZTE)Klaus Moschner (NGMN)Tayeb Ben Merim (Orange)
Bruno Chatras (Orange) (Bruno Chatras)Laurent Ciavaglia (Nokia)Thomas Tovinger (3GPP SA5 chair)
Chen Ping (ZTE)Leon Wong (Rakuten Mobile) Ton Brand (ETSI)
Dave Milham (TM Forum)Li Hui (Huawei) Vishnu Ram  (independent consultant ITU FG-AN)
Dengdan (Huawei)Lingli CMCC (CMCC Community)wangxu (Huawei)
Diego Lopez (ETSI PDL, Telefonica)Luigi Licciardi (Huawei)Weihong Zhu (ZTE)
Dr.Muslim Elkotob (Vodafone)Manchang Ju(ZTE)Xiahaitao (Huawei)
Emmanuel Otchere (Huawei)Marcus Brunner (Huawei)xuruiyue(Huawei) (xuruiyue x00347297)Xuruiyue(Huawei)
Ian Turkington (TM Forum)Nurit SprecherYuval Stein (TEOCO)
James O'Sullivan (Huawei)Jean-Michel Cornily (Orange)Zhangjian(Huawei) 
Jiachen Zhang China Mobile)Paul Harvey (Rakuten Mobile) Zhangkai z00387431(Huawei)
Jing Ping (Nokia)Ranganai ChaparadzaZhengguangying (huaweiHuawei) (Zhengguangying z00239423)
Jörg Niemöller (Ericsson)Raymond Forbes ISG ENI Zou Lan (Huawei) (Zoulan z00340018)


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Input Material

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  1. Kevin proposed a simple matrix of topic/SDO to establish the full list of topics and then to  establish which SDOs and individuals were prepared to contribute to those topics. The topic list was seeded by the 5 topics listed in the agenda.
  2. Discussion followed focused on making clear the precise objectives of the group are and some suggestions were given on how to organise this worksheet with a view to creating create a more high-level landscape and then roadmap view of collaboration.
  3. As such, it was not possible to fully complete this matrix analysis during the meeting as clarification on the high-level objectives was needed from many participants. 
  4. The matrix of topic/SDO is still useful and will be further elaborated offline by participants and analysis analyzed in future meetings. Matrix is in spreadsheet above: Multi-SDO Autonomous Networks Meeting 2 MoM 22-FEB-2021.xlsx

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  • Concern if the work addresses standardization as that will take much time.
  • Joint specification would require discussions on rules and procedures.
    And is the purpose of the parallel Inter SDO meeting for later in March 2021.
  • Over arching document might be feasible.  E.g. White paper
    • Could be definitions and or frameworks
    • Use case
    • Test and verification
  • Different group will have more of or less engagement and some topics might be of higher or lower priority.
  • Autonomous levels is this - are these separate from maturity levels? Consensus was yes.
  • Conceptually alignment whilst necessary might still not create aligned outputs for example APIs models split between common /non domain specific and domain specific.
  • Intent APIs are one example where divergence across SDO would be unhelpful.
  • Concerns about possibility of establishing a 'mega-organization for ' to create common framework
  • Multiple things done in organization trying to create consistency work in collaboration using Liaison offices and liaisons
  • Need to avoid creating obstacles and impeding SDO progressing their existing works
  • Idea of PoC Joint PoCs looks good and was supported by multiple participant
  • Concerns about setting a scope of work that is too large to be done within reasonable timeframe and effort.
  • Starting point should be the existing SDO material and consider motivation and issues they plan to solve. E.g. whether Autonomous Network means the same in all organizations. Should try to find the commonalities  and how complementary work.

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  • Would be useful to know the current detailed work on the list of topics where coordination could be useful.
  • Common operational principle: Need to establish what is common across SDOs. And would need metamodels.  Reference t o to IEEE Common overarching operational principles. Contributed by IEEE, AFI and TM Forum.
  • Metamodels strong opinions were expressed both for and against and for 'Metamodels':
    • Against : too complex and create another model to be supported and of unknown value.
    • For: Suggestion to extract common model by extraction form multiple existing models with create criteria.
      Metamodels linking SDO Concepts is essential for full automation as envisaged by AN I.e. Zero-touch, Self-healing.

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Proposed to run in about 4 week at the time of 11:00-12:30 GMT/UTC
( Ed note proximity to Easter vacations needs to be checked.

We will ask attended attendees to fill out complete the spreadsheet on-lineanalysis online.

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