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  • Introduction
    • Open meeting 
    • Apologies received from Thomas Tovinger and Zoulan as re-schcedule meeting clashes with SA5 meeting
    • Roll call added above
  • Permission to record.  Requested and granted
  • Agenda review and location of input contributions. Review progress on the Leagla / IPR agreement proposal
    • Legal team meeting 13th September
    • Proposal sent out on 5th October
    • Feedback
      • In response to the liaison we sent 5th Oct on a proposed Participation Agreement which would be used for all joint documents. developed through MSDO.
      • 3GPP
      • FG-AN see 2021-09-13 ITU FNAN liaison sp16-fg-an-oLS-00006 
        • Indicated that as they are a time limited activity they don't believe it will be possible to sign up to joint documents.
      • ONAP 
        • have indicated that they would prefer to try to work through current bilateral agreement between Linux Foundation and TM Forum.
      • ETSI
        • Ton reported that ETSI have had a general discussion and had a call with TM Forum Legal. ETSI doesn't believe there is an unsurmountable IPR agreement issue.
        • They would like to get the lapsed ETSI TM Forum Liaison agreement re-established as that would support both AN and NON AN related liaisons. 
    • Conclusions and next steps
      • Dave suggested that the original intention of a co-jointly authored documents and a public letter of intent is clearly infeasible across all the Interested SDOs.
      • The earlier suggestion  of common meeting with temporary document form multiple SDO and jointly reviewed had raised some issues in TM Forum  about antitrust as not clear under which SDO's charter  the discussions were being conducted. 
      • Nick Sampson , Magnus Buhrgard Ranganai Chaparadza, Muslim Elkotob, Raymond Forbes  all stated that the early exchange of information was of considerable value to all SDOs  and that there was a desire to keep those information exchanges going.
      • Dave suggested an alternative variant of the Temp Document approach  which was to use the meeting to conduct open meetings to  review contributions from each of the SDO's. The difference from the previous proposal is that for each document produced by a single SDO the review is conducted under the Charter IPR of the contributing SDO.  This means there is never any doubt which charter IPR a discussion is conducted under . Such an approach could  speed up liaison and dissemination  of  information sharing.
      • This approach avoids joint documents as documents being reviewed are under the IPR and license agreement of the SDO presenting the material  and the review process is conducted under that SSO's charter for open meeting.
      • There is no obligation on the presenting SOD to accept comments either formally or informally from other SDOs. 
      • None of the above precludes SDO establishing Bilateral arrangements for use of other SDO materials ( e.g. copying diagrams ).
      • So the meetings could be driven by a forward agenda of SDO proposals on the working page  Multi-SDO AN Meeting Schedules
      • AP Dave Milham will write up this proposal  proposal for future meeting structure  for consideration by SDO at the next meeting due 20th Dec 2021.
  • Overview /review of Work package progress
    • WP02 Joint WP addressing proposal in Roadmap and Landscape (Operational use caseWP02. Work Packages (WP)
      • Feedback on meeting 25th October 2021
      • Contribution MSDO-7  Incoming Contributions - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence
        •  Dave gave a brief overview of the presentation on the 25th October    ANP319-WP02 initial thoughts-4- short.pdf
        • Key takeaway is that when one looks at the current 3GPP work as one example,  the AN levels are based on different implementation options for Closed loops
        • However, the complexity of operationally managing multiple technical  implementation through the AN levels  looks to be very high and not clear what the operational benefits would be 
    • WP04 Common Operating Principles
  • Administrative 
  • AOB


Action List

Current Call

Previous call

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    AP Dave Milham will send out letter of invitation to the Formal SDO representative for the legal representatives meeting

  •  AP ALL SDO to ensure that the Topic / SDO Matrix  is updated for AN Levels material by end August.

Previous call

  •  AP ALL SDO to provide initial comment on the proposal by the 5th July   and indicate when they could formally agree to the Letter of Intent ( will depend on each SDO internal procedures. AP TM Forum will draft an MSDO IPR  proposal for review and agreement  by liaison.
  •  AP IEEE will make a proposal for the contents of such Common Operational Principles document 

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