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ZOOM record
Name (Original Name) | User Email |
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Cristina Badulescu (ETSI ISG NFV Vice-chair) | |
Johanne Mayer | [email protected] |
Cristina Badulescu (ETSI ISG NFV Vice-chair) | |
Johanne Mayer | [email protected] |
Dave Milham | [email protected] |
luigi licciardi | |
Zoulan z00340018 | |
Kevin McDonnell | |
Ton Brand (ETSI) | |
Thomas Tovinger (Ericsson (Thomas Tovinger) | |
Dr.Muslim Elkotob | |
Aaron Boasman-Patel | [email protected] |
Kevin McDonnell | |
Klaus Moschner | [email protected] |
Zoulan (Huawei) (Zoulan z00340018) | |
Tayeb Ben Merim (Orange) | |
Dr.Muslim Elkotob | |
John Grant (ETSI ISG NIN) (John Grant) | j@ninetiles.com |
klaus_martiny | |
Azahar (BT) | |
Yuval Stein | |
Ishan Vaishnavi | |
Luca Pesando | |
Aaron Boasman-Patel | [email protected] |
Cecilia Ortega Lagos | [email protected] |
Ranganai chaparadza | |
Emmanuel Otchere(Huawei) (Emmanuel Otchere(mobile)) | |
Wong# Leon | Leon | RMI | [email protected] |
Li Hui l00246889 | |
SONG Xiaojia (China Mobile) | |
Li Hui (huawei) (Li Hui l00246889) | |
CMCC Community | [email protected] |
CMCC Community | [email protected] |
Manchang Ju (ZTE) | |
wangxu (wangxu w00304964) | |
Lingli CMCC (CMCC Community) | [email protected] |
Wong# Leon | Leon | RMI | [email protected] |
Chen Ping(ZTE) | |
Taka Nakamura |
Apologies
Logistics:
14:00 -16:00 BST
15:00 - 17:00 CET
Bridge https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2354908699
Input Material
- WP01 Administration: MSDO-WP01r1- Admin-7.docx
- WP02 Landscape Roadmap: MSDO-WP02- Landscape-Roadmap-4.docx
- WP03 AN Business Vision & requirements: MSDO-WP03- Business Vision requirements -1.docx, Presentation MSDO proposal v1.2.pptx
- WP04 Common Operating principles: MSDO-3_Towards Development of a Blueprint of Common Operational Principles for ANs V1.10.pdf
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- MSDO-1: AN Operational User Stories
- https://projects.tmforum.org/wiki/download/attachments/170886893/Autonomous_Networks_%20Operations_User_Stories%20%28RyJe%29-dll-dm.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1619172968000&api=v2
- MSDO-2: SDO Tables Guidance
- https://projects.tmforum.org/wiki/download/attachments/170886893/MSDO-2-MSDO%20_SDOtablesGuidance-1.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1619173716000&api=v2
- https://projects.tmforum.org/wiki/download/attachments/170886893/MSDO-2-MSDO%20_SDOtablesGuidance-1.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1619173716000&api=v2
- MSDO-3: Common Operating principle :
- https://projects.tmforum.org/wiki/download/attachments/170886893/MSDO-3_Towards%20Development%20of%20a%20Blueprint%20of%20Common%20Operational%20Principles%20for%20ANs%20V1.10.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1619426512000&api=v2
- MSDO-4: WP02 Deliverable table proposal
Meeting Agenda
- Permission to record
- Introductions
- Review of Progress
- Review Multi SDO Topic Table Table: Topic / SDO Matrix - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence
- Review WP02 Progress ( Table) and improve guidelines:
- SeeWPO2_ Improvements to SDO Completed and Planned AN Activities Tables - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluenceagree updated table and how to
- proceed See MSDO-4: WP02 Deliverable table proposal: MSDO-4 WP02 Deliverable Table update-r2.docx
- IEEE WP04 Common Principles New work package proposal MSDO-3_Towards Development of a Blueprint of Common Operational Principles for ANs V1.10.pdf
- Outline of plan for joint white Papers
- Input to Formal adminsatrie liasion administrative MSDO meeting 21st June 2021
- Next steps
- AOB
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Recordings
Topic: Dave Milham's Personal Meeting Room
Date: Jun 7, 2021 02:00 PM London
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Meeting notes
- NOT Fully Curated
- Permission to record Requested and granted.
- Introduction 10 mins
- Roll call held and attended attendees list above. Note do not have email for all the attendees.
- Review of Progress
- Review Multi SDO Topic Table: Topic / SDO Matrix - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence
- Kevin McDonnellreviewed the topics table
- Objectives are:
- Provide a tabular overview of the SDO AN relevant document.
- Focus at his stage is on data collection and discovery.
- Identify areas where there are related activities where it may be appropriate to carry out additional exchange of information.
- Plan to use this table in any joint report / white paper that we produce.
- Agreed we need a completed snapshot before 21st June, so we can present as part of the input to the Formal MSDO meeting 21st June.
- AP Dave Milhamsend email remainder to organization that have yet to provide input and outline the Process for Submission.
- Agreed that we should add a couple of additional columns covering status and availability date.
- Discussed which topics we should review on the next open meeting.
- Candidates are those that have maximum interest are Intent Based Management and Control Loops.
- Ranganai Chaparadza and Dr. Muslim Elkotob suggested that would be best to frame this as Multi layer Control and Abstraction as it is the interplay between intent and control loops that needs discussion ( see proposal later).
- Suggested that in exploring these topics that we should see how they do or do not support the three use cases from China Mobile:
- Introduction of new Intelligent application to AN
- Transition from current automation/ autonomous level to a higher level
- Operational maintenance of a current Automation Level
- AP Kevin McDonnell Dave Milham Provide proposal on how use cases can be used to drive the analysis of the Document data capture results.
- Review WP02 Progress ( Table) and improve guidelines:
- SDO Completed and Planned AN Activities Tables - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence
- See MSDO-4: WP02 Deliverable table proposal: MSDO-4 WP02 Deliverable Table update-r2.docx
- Had received a number of comments on the difficulty of completing the current tables.
- Reviewed updated contribution MSDO-4 WP02 Deliverable Table update-r2.docx
- This contribution updates the proposal to make the table document centric rather than domain centric and is based on a set of checklists.
- Easier for SDO to complete and will structure responses, so we can in the analysis stage create the domain specific views. e.g, Business, Service, Resource Operational Domains.
- Table structured on the notion of Stage 1, Stage 2 and Stage 3 specs which is a widely used documentation model in SDOs.
- TM Forum has provided two worked examples in this revised MSDO-4 WP02 Deliverable Table update-r2.docx covering:
- Feedback
- Split the Common Operating principles into two subgroups Design, and Operational
- AP Dave Milhamupdate the Deliverable Table proposal and the working tables.
- AP Dave Milham send out notification when Deliverable tables are ready for completion.
- Review Multi SDO Topic Table: Topic / SDO Matrix - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence
- IEEE WP04 Common Principles New work package proposal MSDO-3_Towards Development of a Blueprint of Common Operational Principles for ANs V1.10.pdf
- Ranganai Chaparadza reviewed the contribution made last time
- MSDO-3: Common Operating principle :
- the main review focus was the common operating principles for Governance suggested in Slide #4
- Feedback was this might be pitch at too low a level almost API calls
- consensus was we need something like a service /function based view but need to have sufficient details for it to be practically used as a principle that can be evaluated and validated / tested.
- Ranganai Chaparadza reviewed the contribution made last time
- Outline of plan for joint white Papers
- Input to Formal administrative MSDO meeting 21st June 2021
- TM Forum make a proposal for a joint white paper cover Landscape and roadmap ( may reference or include the Common Operating Principles' proposal )
- This will need formal SDO discussion on how material is contributed reviewed and communicated.
- Next steps
- AOB
- Zou Lan Pointed out that 3GPP has sent a couple of liaisons to TMForum Cecilia Ortega Lagos confirmed were received Friday 4th Jun
- Dave and Kevin will make sure these are reviewed on this week's TM Forum AN meetings
Action Points
Current
- Agreed we need a completed snapshot before 21st June, so we can present as part of the input to the Formal MSDO meeting 21st June.
- AP Dave Milhamsend email remainder to organization that have yet to provide input and outline the Process for Submission.
- AP Kevin McDonnell Dave Milham Provide proposal on how use cases can be used to drive the analysis of the Document data capture results.
- AP Dave Milhamupdate the Deliverable Table proposal and the working tables.
- AP Dave Milham send out notification when Deliverable tables are ready for completion.
Previous
- AP Ranganai Chaparadza Dave Milham Look at possible White Paper Proposals to augment proposal below
- Dave Milham Lingli DengKevin McDonnell create an SDO Activity Table page providing further guidance on required inputs from SDO taking account of Common operation principle , and User Story aspects . Focus is on first three columns and creating an example AP
- Dave MilhamKevin McDonnell Propose draft Joint white paper structure covering Landscape and roadmap, User Stories, Operational principles and analysis for discussion on next call AP
Previous
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Dave Milham Create a working page for a compendium of architecture diagrams (Noting that team does not think a single diagram will capture all aspects of AN for all stakeholders.) ( ed note will be partof the landscape & roadmap
Next Meeting details
Scheduled Date: 28th June 2021 see Multi-SDO AN Meeting Schedules - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence
Link to Project Calendar:
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Requested topics for next meeting agenda: IEEE proposal on Multi Layer Control , Abstraction and control loops