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Name (Original Name)User Email
Cristina Badulescu (ETSI ISG NFV Vice-chair)
Johanne Mayer[email protected]
Cristina Badulescu (ETSI ISG NFV Vice-chair)
Johanne Mayer[email protected]
Dave Milham[email protected]
luigi licciardi
Zoulan z00340018
Kevin McDonnell
Ton Brand (ETSI)
Thomas Tovinger (Ericsson (Thomas Tovinger)
Dr.Muslim Elkotob
Aaron Boasman-Patel[email protected]
Kevin McDonnell
Klaus Moschner[email protected]
Zoulan (Huawei) (Zoulan z00340018)
Tayeb Ben Merim (Orange)
Dr.Muslim Elkotob
John Grant (ETSI ISG NIN) (John Grant)j@ninetiles.com
klaus_martiny
Azahar (BT)
Yuval Stein
Ishan Vaishnavi
Luca Pesando
Aaron Boasman-Patel[email protected]
Cecilia Ortega Lagos[email protected]
Ranganai chaparadza
Emmanuel Otchere(Huawei) (Emmanuel Otchere(mobile))
Wong# Leon | Leon | RMI[email protected]
Li Hui l00246889
SONG Xiaojia (China Mobile)
Li Hui (huawei) (Li Hui l00246889)
CMCC Community[email protected]
CMCC Community[email protected]
Manchang Ju (ZTE)
wangxu (wangxu w00304964)
Lingli CMCC (CMCC Community)[email protected]
Wong# Leon | Leon | RMI[email protected]
Chen Ping（ZTE）
Taka Nakamura


Apologies

Logistics:


14:00 -16:00 BST

15:00 - 17:00 CET

Bridge https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2354908699 

Input Material


Incoming contributions

Meeting Agenda

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Meeting Type

Open Informational Meeting

IPR Claims


Recordings

Topic: Dave Milham's Personal Meeting Room
Date: Jun 7, 2021 02:00 PM London

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Meeting notes

  • NOT Fully Curated 
  • Permission to record Requested and granted.
  • Introduction 10 mins
    • Roll call held and attendees list above. Note do not have email for all the attendees.
  • Review of Progress
    • Review Multi SDO Topic Table:  Topic / SDO Matrix - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence
      • Kevin McDonnellreviewed the topics table
      • Objectives are:
        • Provide a tabular overview of the SDO AN relevant document.
        • Focus at his stage is on data collection and discovery.
        • Identify areas where there are related activities where it  may be appropriate to carry out additional exchange of information.
      • Plan to use this table in any joint report / white paper that we produce.
      • Agreed we need a completed snapshot before 21st June, so we can present as part of the input to the Formal MSDO meeting 21st June.
      • AP Dave Milhamsend email remainder to organization that have yet to provide input and outline the Process for Submission.
      • Agreed that we should add a couple of additional columns covering status and availability date.
      • Discussed which topics we should review on the next open meeting.  
      • Candidates are those that have maximum interest are Intent Based Management and Control Loops.
      • Ranganai Chaparadza  and Dr. Muslim Elkotob suggested that would be best to frame this as Multi layer Control and Abstraction as it is the interplay between intent and control loops that needs discussion ( see proposal later).
      • Suggested that in exploring these topics that we should see how they do or do not support the three use cases from China Mobile:
        • Introduction of new Intelligent application to AN
        • Transition from current automation/ autonomous level to a higher level
        • Operational maintenance of a current Automation Level
        • AP Kevin McDonnell Dave Milham Provide proposal on how use cases can be used to drive the analysis of the Document data capture results.
    • Review WP02 Progress ( Table)   and improve guidelines:
  • IEEE WP04 Common Principles  New work package proposal MSDO-3_Towards Development of a Blueprint of Common Operational Principles for ANs V1.10.pdf
    • Ranganai Chaparadza  reviewed the contribution made last time 
      • MSDO-3:  Common Operating principle : 
      • the main review focus was the common operating principles for Governance suggested in Slide #4
      • Feedback was this might be pitch at too low a level almost API calls
      • consensus was we need something like a service /function based view  but need to have sufficient details for it to be practically used as a principle that can be evaluated and validated / tested.
  • Outline of plan for  joint white Papers
    • Input to Formal administrative MSDO meeting 21st June 2021
    • TM Forum make a proposal for a joint white paper cover Landscape and roadmap ( may reference or include the Common Operating Principles' proposal ) 
    • This will need  formal SDO discussion on  how material is contributed reviewed and communicated.
  • Next steps
  • AOB
    • Zou Lan Pointed out that 3GPP has sent a couple of liaisons to TMForum Cecilia Ortega Lagos confirmed were received Friday 4th Jun 
    • Dave and Kevin will make sure these are reviewed on this week's TM Forum AN meetings

Action Points

Current

  • Agreed we need a completed snapshot before 21st June, so we can present as part of the input to the Formal MSDO meeting 21st June.
  • AP Dave Milhamsend email remainder to organization that have yet to provide input and outline the Process for Submission.
  • AP Kevin McDonnell Dave Milham Provide proposal on how use cases can be used to drive the analysis of the Document data capture results.
  • AP Dave Milhamupdate the Deliverable Table proposal and the working tables.
  • AP Dave Milham  send out notification when Deliverable tables  are ready for completion. 


Previous 

  • AP Ranganai Chaparadza Dave Milham Look at possible White Paper Proposals to augment proposal below
  • AP Dave Milham  Lingli DengKevin McDonnell  create an SDO  Activity Table page providing further guidance on required inputs from SDO  taking account of Common operation principle , and User Story aspects . Focus is on first three columns and creating an example
  • AP  Dave MilhamKevin McDonnell Propose  draft Joint white paper structure covering Landscape and roadmap, User Stories, Operational principles and analysis for discussion on  next call   

Dave Milham Create a working page for a compendium of architecture diagrams (Noting that team does not think a single diagram will capture all aspects of AN for all stakeholders.) ( ed note will be partof the landscape & roadmap 

Next Meeting details

Scheduled Date:        28th June 2021 see   Multi-SDO AN Meeting Schedules - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence

Link to Project Calendar:

Apologies for next  meeting: 

Requested topics for next meeting agenda:   IEEE proposal on Multi Layer Control , Abstraction and control loops


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