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Name (Org)Name (Org)2Name (Org)3
(unknown person) 33674012673Keguang He(CMCC)SONG Xiaojia (China Mobile)
Abdul Majid Hussain  (Telstra)Kevin McDonnell (Huawei)Sundong (Futurewei)
Anatoly Andrianov (Nokia)Klaus Martiny (DTAG)Takayuki Nakamura (NTT-Group)
Baoguo (ZTE)Klaus Moschner (NGMN)Tayeb Ben Merim (Orange)
Bruno Chatras (Orange) (Bruno Chatras)Laurent Ciavaglia (Nokia)Thomas Tovinger (3GPP SA5 chair)
Chen Ping (ZTE)Leon Wong (Rakuten Mobile) Ton Brand (ETSI)
Dave Milham (TM Forum)Li Hui (Huawei) Vishnu Ram  (independent consultant ITU FG-AN)
Dengdan (Huawei)Lingli CMCC (CMCC Community)wangxu (Huawei)
Diego Lopez (ETSI PDL, Telefonica)Luigi Licciardi (Huawei)Weihong Zhu (ZTE)
Dr.Muslim Elkotob (Vodafone)Manchang Ju(ZTE)Xiahaitao (Huawei)
Emmanuel Otchere (Huawei)Marcus Brunner (Huawei)Xuruiyue(Huawei)
Ian Turkington (TM Forum)Nurit SprecherYuval Stein (TEOCO)
James O'Sullivan (Huawei)Jean-Michel Cornily (Orange)Zhangjian(Huawei) 
Jiachen Zhang China Mobile)Paul Harvey (Rakuten Mobile) Zhangkai (Huawei)
Jing Ping (Nokia)Ranganai ChaparadzaZhengguangying (Huawei)
Jörg Niemöller (Ericsson)Raymond Forbes ISG ENI Zou Lan (Huawei)

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Input Material

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  1. Many attendees were new and had not attended previous workshop ~1.
  2. Presented the previous workshop minutes location - 2020-09-28 Multi-SDO Autonomous Network Coordination Workshop Meeting Notes/Video - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence  - and key agreement at end of Workshop #1:
    1. "Start from the consensus and alignment of basic concepts, terminologies, framework, and key perspectives including definition of Autonomous Networks, closed loop, Autonomous Networks Levels, Autonomous domains, Intent driven interaction and open discussions.
    2. Further deep dive on the development of key technical mechanisms, framework and interfaces, as well as use cases/PoCs and testing and verification mechanisms to support autonomous networks."
  3. Feedback received on detailed  ETSI TC and IETF group titles. Any correction should be emailed to [email protected]

Presentations: AN SDO Workshop Contributions - AN-SDO Collaboration - TM Forum Confluence

Group Planning session facillitated by Kevin McDonnell

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A number of comments were made about the process of moving the work forward which differed from the output of the previous workshop. These are summarized below and are not attributed to individuals or SDOs.  The recording above give the chronological record. 

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  • Concern if the work addresses standardization as that will take much time.
  • Joint specification would require discussions on rules and procedures.
    And is the purpose of the parallel Inter SDO meeting for later in March 2021.
  • Over arching Overarching document might be feasible.  Ee.g. White white paper
    • Could be definitions and or frameworks
    • Use case
    • Test and verification
  • Different group will have more or less engagement and some topics might be of higher or lower priority.
  • Autonomous levels Network Levels - are these separate from maturity levels? Consensus was yes.
  • Conceptually alignment whilst necessary might still not create aligned outputs for example APIs models split between common /non domain specific and domain specific.
  • Intent APIs are one example where divergence across SDO would be unhelpful.
  • Concerns about possibility of establishing a 'mega-organization' to create common framework
  • Multiple things done in organization trying to create consistency work in collaboration using Liaison offices and liaisons
  • Need to avoid creating obstacles and impeding SDO progressing their existing works
  • Idea of Joint PoCs looks good and was supported by multiple participantparticipants
  • Concerns about setting a scope of work that is too large to be done within reasonable time frame and effort.
  • Starting point should be the existing SDO material and consider motivation and issues they plan to solve. E.g. whether Autonomous Network means the same in all organizations. Should try to find the commonalities  and how complementary work.

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  • Major obstacle for CSP is to follow and analyze the activity of the SDOs organization.
  • PROPOSAL: Suggestion that CSP would benefit initially from a document setting out the  landscape  landscape of AN activities across SDOs to create a common understanding, more elaborated understanding of the terminologies (some are technical e.g. Autonomous Networks Autonomous Domains;  and some are types of deliverables) and get a picture of where the industry is going i.e. form of roadmap (attracted several supporting comments).

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  • Would be useful to know where current detailed work is underway for the topics listed.
  • Common operational principle: Need to establish what is common across SDOs. And would need metamodels.  Reference to IEEE Common overarching operational principles. Contributed by members of IEEE, AFI and TM Forum.
  • Metamodels strong opinions were expressed both for and against 'Metamodels':

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  • Common information models:
    • Federation / merge of information models was successful for Network models as developed between 3GPP and TM Forum and common models lead led by Cablelabs.
    • Concern about creating new over arching overarching model as that creates N+1 standards.
    • Should try to establish what was done in the past that worked well.
  • PROPOSAL: Review proposal developed by IEEE at Future networking conference "Overarching Blueprint of Common Operational Principles of Autonomic/Autonomous Networks," which involves Mappings for Federated Models as well
  • Concern that even aligning principles guidelines across SDOs could be a challenge as implies changes to existing SDO specifications.
  • Formal contributions might be best done by company contributions as easier to handle in the SDO Working Groups.
  • Outcomes could be:
    • Sharing of information.
    • Sharing of definition, then figure out if there a was mutual interest to create shared understanding which could then become the Landscape/ Roadmap.

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meetings:

Proposed to run in about 4 week at the time of 11:00-12:30 GMT/UTC
( Ed note proximity to Easter vacations needs to be checked.

Proposal is to hold next Multi-SDO AN  Workshop ( technical level)  in a month
i..e 22nd March 2021 time to be agreed

And we have proposed an Inter-SDO Strattegic coordination meeting focued on  planning and business objectives  in a formal  liaison from TM Forum to all interested SDOs on
15th March exact timing to be discussedWe will ask attendees to complete the spreadsheet analysis online.


Action List

  •  We will ask attendees Representatives of afilliated SDOs to complete the spreadsheet analysis online Topic / SDO Matrix  online.

Next Meeting details

Scheduled Date:        

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